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Title: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 11, 2019, 03:35:55 PM
Not sure why, but many times using the Convert all Text to Outlines leaves some fonts live. Is there a threshold or reason why some would be left untouched? I can always use the Select Object tool and select all then manually Text->Convert to Outlines but it's a pain when there's multiple pages to be done.

Our Sign Shop wants all fonts converted, as do most outside sign vendors.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: david on September 11, 2019, 04:02:13 PM
I've wondered about this myself.
Not sure why, but I always thought it was a licensing issue (by the font creator).
Like some fonts can't be embedded in a pdf, some can't print, etc.
Usually on a font that was meant to be used only on a Web site and not for print.


but, I could be wrong

 :drunk3:

Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 11, 2019, 04:12:53 PM
I think it is a licensing issue too. Sometimes Pitstop Inspector will even tell you that.

Unzip the attached file and import the preflight profile into Acrobat. Run it on the file you want to outline all fonts on. Rarely misses a font.

If you use it a lot create a droplet on your desktop and just drop PDF's on the droplet.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 11, 2019, 08:17:02 PM
Cool, I'll give it a whirl when I go back. Thanks Joe!
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: motormount on September 12, 2019, 01:58:49 AM
I'll download it just in case, but most probably will only run on DC - which does the job most of the times -
If you have X - i do in work - you wont do much!
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 12, 2019, 09:10:32 AM
It is a standard Acrobat preflight so it might work in older versions. It might not too. I'm not sure when they added in the ability to do fixes in the preflight.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: abc on September 12, 2019, 05:52:14 PM
If you have PitStop 2019 take a look in the preferences.
New option to ignore font licensing, but please read the disclaimer!!
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 12, 2019, 08:24:41 PM
How did I miss that? ;D
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: AaronH on September 13, 2019, 01:03:22 PM
Ooooh. That's awesome.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on September 13, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
Me to boss soon..... we need to upgrade to pitstop 2019.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Tracy on September 13, 2019, 04:57:28 PM
Lots of new useful stuff in there!

Just read the disclaimer!! Just had a pdf the other day needing fonts outlined and got the no can do license warning!
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 13, 2019, 05:31:10 PM
Lots of new useful stuff in there!

Just read the disclaimer!! Just had a pdf the other day needing fonts outlined and got the no can do license warning!

Never again!

(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/589a0dc025000034080b77e3.png?cache=bpbpckygh2&ops=scalefit_720_noupscale)
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Tracy on September 13, 2019, 06:09:25 PM
Right on!
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: abc on September 14, 2019, 06:47:04 PM
Might be useful.

Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 24, 2019, 11:36:41 AM
If you have PitStop 2019 take a look in the preferences.
New option to ignore font licensing, but please read the disclaimer!!
Doesn't seem to catch all the weird ones from this Canva file though.  :death:
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 24, 2019, 11:39:30 AM
I think it is a licensing issue too. Sometimes Pitstop Inspector will even tell you that.

Unzip the attached file and import the preflight profile into Acrobat. Run it on the file you want to outline all fonts on. Rarely misses a font.

If you use it a lot create a droplet on your desktop and just drop PDF's on the droplet.
Can't seem to Import this to the Preflight panel - is that the format?
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 24, 2019, 12:35:02 PM
You did unzip it right? Yes the .kfp is an Acrobat DC preflight profile. You have to import from the preflight panel as shown below.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: pspdfppdfxhd on September 24, 2019, 01:55:39 PM
Oh no, not Cavana again.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 24, 2019, 04:11:30 PM
You did unzip it right? Yes the .kfp is an Acrobat DC preflight profile. You have to import from the preflight panel as shown below.
Ohhhhhh, an ACROBAT Preflight profile. was trying to cram it into Pitstop.  :-[
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 24, 2019, 04:13:02 PM
Bah, still a big old Fail.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 24, 2019, 05:11:30 PM
What font is it?
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Tracy on September 24, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
Do you have pitstop 2019?
If so in prefs you can turn off the font license thingy, just have to read the disclaimer
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 24, 2019, 08:39:41 PM
Bah, still a big old Fail.

I think I've only seen it not to outline all fonts once or maybe twice.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 24, 2019, 11:06:21 PM
Do you have pitstop 2019?
If so in prefs you can turn off the font license thingy, just have to read the disclaimer
Yup, tried that too. No bueno.

What font is it?
They're those "stripped" T3 fonts like in my earlier post screenshot. Even doing a Select All with the Pitstop grabber there's no option to convert to Outlines. Might have to rasterize this batch if they're approved soon.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 25, 2019, 09:12:42 AM
From your screenshot...

Encoding: Custom

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 25, 2019, 09:13:32 AM
Maybe try using the Acrobat flattener and check the box to outline all fonts and see if that will work.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 25, 2019, 06:01:19 PM
Nossir. Man, this is a beeeeyotch.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Joe on September 25, 2019, 07:04:56 PM
Fonts from HELL! :rotf:
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: abc on September 26, 2019, 04:45:19 AM
Do you really need to outline them?
Are they embedded?
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 26, 2019, 01:48:02 PM
I really do - our sign shop guy has always asked that - we USED to rasterize evrrrrrrything for sign work but that's just stupid.

Are they embedded?
They are, but they're not identified as anything. I'll PM ya the file.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: DigiCorn on September 26, 2019, 01:50:44 PM
I get that, and I've seen it first hand. Our Onyx RIP will not always produce a vector file, especially a complex one with lots of transparency, layers, drop shadows, etc. Something goes wrong in the flattening process and things get omitted or it produces the inverse of what's expected.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: abc on September 26, 2019, 02:13:05 PM
Thanks for the file. If you can't outline I guess the only other option is to rasterize the type.
Here's an Action List to convert Type 3 fonts to images, it's set to 600 dpi so you  might want to change that. Seems to work ok.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: Slappy on September 26, 2019, 08:37:08 PM
Thanks, that worked like a charm! And, bonus, it just got approved late in the day so I didn't have to rasterize the whole lot of them entirely.
Title: Re: Convert all Text to Outlines-Doesn't Always
Post by: abc on September 27, 2019, 05:24:14 PM
Always nice to hear when it works.
Gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling going into the weekend!

Although that could just be the Red Wine.   :rolleyes: