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Title: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: K3NS4N on August 12, 2015, 01:22:57 AM
Hi everby, Im noob using this navigator's plugin.

I wonder if is possible impose 2  files, head to head or foot to foot.



Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Ear on August 12, 2015, 04:11:13 PM
I'm sure it is.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Tracy on August 12, 2015, 04:45:00 PM
it looks like its in the binding section where you select it
right now you have top bound, Just need to select your size
etc…?
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: K3NS4N on August 13, 2015, 12:55:52 AM
it looks like its in the binding section where you select it
right now you have top bound, Just need to select your size
etc…?

This works only necessarily for 8 pdf pages,

but if I have 2 pages, I cant place head 2 head.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Tracy on August 13, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
did you see that you have saddle stitch selected at the top?
You may want to see what other settings you have in that drop down,
you need to have a multiple of 4 for saddle stitch.
What program is it?
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: K3NS4N on August 13, 2015, 11:32:54 PM
This is a plugin for Xitron Navigator, called Simple Imposition.

Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Tracy on August 14, 2015, 09:43:52 AM
Did you try selecting something else besides Saddle stitch?
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: rickself on August 14, 2015, 12:03:10 PM
I had a boss years back who thought everything was 'Simple Imposition'.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Ear on August 14, 2015, 12:14:04 PM
 :lmao:
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: K3NS4N on August 15, 2015, 11:26:29 PM
is impossible do it?
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Joe on August 16, 2015, 09:19:41 AM
I've never seen the software you are talking so there is no way I can be sure of that you can. But I can't imagine an imposition software that can't do it though. It's pretty basic stuff.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: rickself on August 17, 2015, 04:20:00 PM
I think in the time we're discussed it, you could export your pages out as pdf and impose the thing yourself.
Take a sheet of paper, make a folded up dummy of the project, write the page numbers of F&B on the folded up sheet, unfold and there you go. I'm not trying to be blunt or sarcastic, but making a mockup of the project is Design 101.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Farabomb on August 18, 2015, 08:48:37 AM
Ummm, when was the last time you got a booked pagination dummy with a job? Most of my customers won't even hit print on their file to check if it backs up correctly.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: rickself on August 18, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
Ummm, when was the last time you got a booked pagination dummy with a job? Most of my customers won't even hit print on their file to check if it backs up correctly.
Well that 10 page 5.5 x 8.5 booklet they created in Excel looks real good from the laser printer!
Umm, sir, ma'am, where would you like me to place the 2 blank pages to make this impose correctly?
Oh wait, ask the CSR!
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Farabomb on August 18, 2015, 09:58:33 AM
You would figure with google they could look up the term divisible by 4.

I'm quite sure nobody actually listens to prepress, they just smile and nod.

Like the one customer that was here on a saturday rush. They thought tearing out a page in the proof and not telling anyone would magically change the page count.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Joe on August 18, 2015, 11:04:51 AM
I've tried explaining to customers why it is cheaper to run their magazine on our presses if they either print 56 or 64 pages which are both 2 press runs. (32 + 24 = 56) or (32 + 32 = 64) but they will repeatedly try to sneak in a 60 pager that is 3 press runs (24 + 24 + 12). All are divisible by 4. As a courtesy we always try to explain that they will save about $3K - $5K if they either add or subtract 4 pages. They are always upset until you explain the dollar figures to them. Then next issue same thing. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Ear on August 18, 2015, 01:52:04 PM
Right! FFS! We try to tell them that too. A half web costs as much, if not more than a full web... same amount of plates, make ready, etc... the only difference is the size of the paper roll, which is a marginal savings. Not to mention, it takes longer to print the dinky because the press crew has to shut off half of the ink and there are inherent problems with running skinny rolls of paper. Bindery hates half webs too.
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Tracy on August 18, 2015, 03:42:35 PM
I remember dinky from my Newspaper days, been awhile tho
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Joe on August 18, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
Right! FFS! We try to tell them that too. A half web costs as much, if not more than a full web... same amount of plates, make ready, etc... the only difference is the size of the paper roll, which is a marginal savings. Not to mention, it takes longer to print the dinky because the press crew has to shut off half of the ink and there are inherent problems with running skinny rolls of paper. Bindery hates half webs too.

We do 1/2, 2/3, and 3/4 dinkys. Which is always a treat when imposing. :strangle:
Title: Re: Simple Imposition dude
Post by: Grimace on August 18, 2015, 06:11:43 PM
Hi everby, Im noob using this navigator's plugin.

I wonder if is possible impose 2  files, head to head or foot to foot.




You may get the result you want by rotating the files 90 degrees prior to bringing into the imposition program.
Not the best way, but completely doable.