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Offline Laurens

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A look back at 2008
« on: December 20, 2008, 04:51:57 AM »
For the history of prepress pages on my site I would like to shortly finish the '2008' page. It should cover major prepress trends, big events, interesting new products or technologies but I fail to come up with much. There was drupa, CS4/QXP 8, the current crisis and its impact on our industry and the 'green' hype but that seems to be about it. I cannot think of any really exciting new software or hardware releases. Did I overlook stuff?
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2008, 07:18:25 AM »

The only thing that springs to mind, Laurens, is the uptake of APPE RIPs. Would you place this as a 2008 event? There seem to be quite a few Fujifilm customers here in Australia who have made the jump this year.
It would be a big step for us, and certainly hope to do it in '09. If we don't, I can see increasing problems for us in file rendering. What do you do when your PostScript workarounds just won't get the required result?
For me, that's what weighs on my mind; not so much the too-early CS4 arrival.     :undecided:

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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 09:38:11 AM »
Personally I'm dreading the arrival of any new job from a customer in Quack8. Ugh. So far I've seen nothing come in in CS4.
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2008, 01:28:06 PM »
Does Acrobat 9 qualify, or is that included under the umbrella of CS4?

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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 06:51:43 PM »

Personally I'm dreading the arrival of any new job from a customer in Quack8. Ugh. So far I've seen nothing come in in CS4.


I am at my wits end with the level of customer service at my shop. It's bad enough we advertise openly to be State-of-the-art... but, insist on us "Operators" to inform customers their files will need to be re-uploaded/re-burned/re-delivered as .inx files because we don't have InDesign CS4.

It took me a solid year to get Quark 7. I begged and pleaded... every week like clockwork. That's like asking to have your first born son slaughtered in front of you... the things we do for Prepress. :laugh:

A monumental occurrence in Prepress last year beyond what was listed above? Hmmmm? I would have to say the destruction and utter obliteration of a lot of good, hard working print shops that were forced to close their doors because of the gas prices and shitty economy... worldwide! That's what I'll remember about 2008. :angry:
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2008, 09:20:31 PM »


Personally I'm dreading the arrival of any new job from a customer in Quack8. Ugh. So far I've seen nothing come in in CS4.


I am at my wits end with the level of customer service at my shop. It's bad enough we advertise openly to be State-of-the-art... but, insist on us "Operators" to inform customers their files will need to be re-uploaded/re-burned/re-delivered as .inx files because we don't have InDesign CS4.

It took me a solid year to get Quark 7. I begged and pleaded... every week like clockwork. That's like asking to have your first born son slaughtered in front of you... the things we do for Prepress. :laugh:

We are lucky enough that (usually) as soon as we start to get customer files in the new version, we are upgraded. At least the 3 of us that do the majority of the prepress work.

I have no children to sacrifice. There are days I would give up my husband... :wink:
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2008, 03:18:04 AM »

... but, insist on us "Operators" to inform customers their files will need to be re-uploaded/re-burned/re-delivered as .inx files because we don't have InDesign CS4.


I feel for you on that one, DCS. Dumb thing is, they don't cost-account the friggin' wasted time doing that, as well as pissing the customer off. But I'm not telling you anything.    :undecided:

But, begging for Quark 7.  That's a Kurt Vonnegut moment.    :laugh:   Black, but funny as hell...
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 04:25:23 PM »

...Shall Sticky this temporarily, so its profile stays up for a while.


Thanks for making this a temporary sticky. I regard APPE itself as 'old news' since Adobe announced the technology in 2006 and vendors started shipping APPE-based products in 2007. What is different for 2008 is that version 1.1 and later seem to have matured quite a bit and that the technology is now indeed getting widely used. That however conflicts a bit with another 2008 trend: the year users finally got fed up with upgrading to the latest and greatest.
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2008, 11:11:40 PM »


Fair point. We do tend to lag a bit down here. The uptake's only just started to bite here, it seems. CS4 may give it a shove, as well.
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 10:46:51 AM »
The Quark 7 Debacle!
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 10:54:32 AM »
The state of the economy has been the biggest factor affecting our commercial work- customers willing to accept what I term sub standard quality for price.
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Re: A look back at 2008
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2009, 04:32:18 PM »
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I've updated the 2008 overview based on it.

Frailer, I think you can now 'unstickify' this thread (gotta love the way virtually any word can be turned into a verb in English. Dutch isn't that flexible!)
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