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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2011, 11:47:45 AM »
Try changing the size to 1 millimeter or .1 inch less than the media size.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2011, 12:17:23 PM »
Yep... a lot of times the platesetter has an inaccurate measurement, especially in the plate width. The length (around the drum) is measured by a stationary sensor but the width is measured when the centering device for the punch moves in on the plate. This is a somewhat relative measurement as it is calculated by track-screw rotations from home position. If there has been a jam in the centering device, then there is a chance they have been moved slightly. This has happened here and so I just set the plate size in the machine so it works, even though it is not a correct absolute value. Basically, you have to make the platesetter work, then mess with the RB and impo until everything works, even if it makes no sense.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2011, 12:36:34 PM »
Regarding the horizontal line, try adjusting up/down the setback for the plate and see if the line follows the change. I am betting it is a check box in the RIP to make that line, allowing the press person to identify if the paper to be used is too short - ie the bars use to be on the tail perhaps. Are the small vertical lines with the numbers also coming out or just the one horizontal line?

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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2011, 04:39:22 PM »

Regarding the horizontal line, try adjusting up/down the setback for the plate and see if the line follows the change. I am betting it is a check box in the RIP to make that line, allowing the press person to identify if the paper to be used is too short - ie the bars use to be on the tail perhaps. Are the small vertical lines with the numbers also coming out or just the one horizontal line?



The numbers and lines are part of the image, a ruler, just the line is unwanted.


I'll double check the RIP, cause the weird thing is that some jobs are coming through without the line. Even when the page size is the same.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2013, 03:00:19 PM »
Okay, back to setting up again. We are switching to Agfa Azura plates.
Does anybody know a good knowledgeable install guy? The guys Pitman sent are having problems remembering how and what does what.
I need a dedicated Screen 4100 pro. Any suggestions?

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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2013, 03:42:07 PM »

Okay, back to setting up again. We are switching to Agfa Azura plates.
Does anybody know a good knowledgeable install guy? The guys Pitman sent are having problems remembering how and what does what.
I need a dedicated Screen 4100 pro. Any suggestions?


I know a guy, ask Sabrina if he was at all helpful. He works for Screen and travels the world doing so, last I saw he was in Osaka or something.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2013, 03:43:42 PM »


Okay, back to setting up again. We are switching to Agfa Azura plates.
Does anybody know a good knowledgeable install guy? The guys Pitman sent are having problems remembering how and what does what.
I need a dedicated Screen 4100 pro. Any suggestions?


I know a guy, ask Sabrina if he was at all helpful. He works for Screen and travels the world doing so, last I saw he was in Osaka or something.


Thanks, I may get info from you. It's been since 8 this morning, and they haven't even got the focus set yet.

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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2013, 05:42:05 PM »
like I said, ask Sabrina if this guy was helpful or if he blew her off, I can't say he's my guy, he's just a dude I know from the industry who works for Screen.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2013, 05:51:26 PM »
I can't believe the rep for the new plates didn't line up someone who knows what's up. I just tested new brands of plates last month. Both Fuji and Anocoil sent techs in that knew how to set up my Screen 8600. That said, I know it better than they did and kept an eye on them. One messed up a balancer constant setting, which I caught and fixed (could've been really bad) and the other tech did the focus incorrectly, which caused us grief for a day before I caught and fixed his mistake. But they at least knew how to get their way through the platesetter setup.

I suggest, when you do get someone in that knows what to do, watch and learn, that way you don't need to rely on the techs.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2013, 12:44:40 AM »
I know a guy - will post his info tomorrow.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2013, 03:12:46 PM »
Thanks for the replies. I have a possible dude around here that we finally got into contact with. Hopefully he can come by and teach me a thing or two.

The Agfa guy just left. Stayed until 6:30 last night. My 8 hour day normally ends at 3:30, so, yay.
I am up and running, but my hopes of solving weird issues we had with the Fuji plates - dashed.

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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2013, 03:22:47 PM »
If it makes you feel better mine totally shit the bed today with no real hope of being resurrected... and I have 2 of the bastards.
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2013, 03:34:28 PM »
Sorry - I forgot. I was drunk last night when I posted that, and i forgot all about it until I saw this thread bumped again.

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He works for Kodak, but he services our Screen 4100. I talked to him, and he said he's not sure Kodak is going to let him continue servicing Screen, and now it's hard for him to get parts.

I also found this number for Screen techs 1-800-372-7737 ext. 2265
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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2013, 03:59:22 PM »

I was drunk last night when I posted that


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Re: Screen PTR-4100
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2013, 04:11:59 PM »
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