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The need for press checks?
« on: May 10, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »
I recently ran into a former colleague who became production manager at a publisher of fine art books. One of his main tasks was doing press checks for such publications. He told me the company had been acquired some time ago and that the new owners didn't think press checks were that important. I guess that is a trend as I've heard this from others as well. Out of curiosity I've put a poll about this on prepressure.com. Any thoughts on this? Is there a decline? Is it justified?
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2011, 06:28:55 PM »
I think it depends entirely on the type of work. Having said that I would think if you are printing "fine art books" I would expect a press check.
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2011, 06:36:03 PM »
my old company has so many press checks they built a luxury customer suite in the shop, complete with 1 bedroom, a full kitchen and bath, granite tops, marble, fine woods, the whole shebang.

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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2011, 06:48:10 PM »
We only print garbage. No press checks.
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2011, 07:00:26 PM »
Selected items get a press check.
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 07:54:48 PM »
Once in a blue moon here, if that. I use extra deodorant those days, in case they come into pp.
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 09:03:57 PM »
For most purposes I think that press checks are an exercise in vanity. But having said that there are situations where a press check is a good idea. If nothing else as a meet and greet to reinforce a relationship. A "good will tour" if you will. For color critical, volume, complex projects, etc. they can be invaluable if conducted well by the company *AND* the person conducting the press check. There needs to be a good business case for a press check.
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 09:37:41 PM »
Press checks can be a bit of fun when the booze addled press operator has some 18 year old designer - fresh out of school asking him to bump colours! - love watching a press operator's buttons being pushed!


Oh... one caveat on that - if it's an attractive young thing doing the press check nothings too much trouble!
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 10:01:14 PM »

Press checks can be a bit of fun when the booze addled press operator has some 18 year old designer - fresh out of school asking him to bump colours! - love watching a press operator's buttons being pushed!


Oh... one caveat on that - if it's an attractive young thing doing the press check nothings too much trouble!


     :laugh:    :laugh:   Hahaha... true on all counts.  Seen it happen.    :evil:
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 10:28:39 PM »


Press checks can be a bit of fun when the booze addled press operator has some 18 year old designer - fresh out of school asking him to bump colours! - love watching a press operator's buttons being pushed!


Oh... one caveat on that - if it's an attractive young thing doing the press check nothings too much trouble!


     :laugh:    :laugh:   Hahaha... true on all counts.  Seen it happen.    :evil:


We have a thing around here that if you need to find out any info from the pressmen just wear a skirt out there.  :undecided:
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 11:00:12 PM »

booze addled press operator


Redundant adjective there.  :laugh:
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2011, 08:57:55 AM »



Press checks can be a bit of fun when the booze addled press operator has some 18 year old designer - fresh out of school asking him to bump colours! - love watching a press operator's buttons being pushed!


Oh... one caveat on that - if it's an attractive young thing doing the press check nothings too much trouble!


     :laugh:    :laugh:   Hahaha... true on all counts.  Seen it happen.    :evil:


We have a thing around here that if you need to find out any info from the pressmen just wear a skirt out there.  :undecided:

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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2011, 09:34:52 AM »

For most purposes I think that press checks are an exercise in vanity. But having said that there are situations where a press check is a good idea. If nothing else as a meet and greet to reinforce a relationship. A "good will tour" if you will. For color critical, volume, complex projects, etc. they can be invaluable if conducted well by the company *AND* the person conducting the press check. There needs to be a good business case for a press check.


So vanity dictates press checks?

So who puts on the make up and takes it in the rear when the customer rejects a job?

That imagery aside we do about 2 or 3 a week, typically new work or work that has had color issues in the past.

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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2011, 09:57:34 AM »
We do a few here and rarely are there issues. The smart designers may learn something watching a press check and a smart owner will learn about the customer.

and yes a pretty cute mediocre doesn't look like a bag of smashed ass woman normally is given a lot more forgiveness by the pressmen.
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Re: The need for press checks?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2011, 11:17:51 AM »
It helps to get the person doing the press check drunk. The old place has a 4 am bar literally 15 feet away, with cute juggy bartenders. "Makeready is taking a long time, let's go next door for a minute" says the sales slime - then the press check goes very smoothly.
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