Recent

Author Topic: JPG to Vector with live type  (Read 2478 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Joe

  • Master of Nothing
  • Administrator
  • Ninja Warlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 36704
  • Gender: Male
    • B4Print.com
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 01:12:12 PM »

We are at $60 hr


$9,000 then. I guess it's really important if they agree to pay it. I'll do it for $8,999! :laugh:
Mac OS 10.14.6 Mojave | Prinergy 8.2 | Adobe Creative Cloud 2019 | Two Luscher XPose 160 CTP units

Prepress: One who does precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.

Offline Joe

  • Master of Nothing
  • Administrator
  • Ninja Warlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 36704
  • Gender: Male
    • B4Print.com
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 01:13:24 PM »

$45 an hour! You are a cheap whore. Wow, that is cheap.  :laugh:
I'm $70 an hour!


In 1990 the place I was working at charged $245 per hour. When I started at this place in 2001 they were charging $45 per hour. Hasn't moved since. Doomed!
Mac OS 10.14.6 Mojave | Prinergy 8.2 | Adobe Creative Cloud 2019 | Two Luscher XPose 160 CTP units

Prepress: One who does precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.

Offline Skryber

  • Ninja Master
  • **
  • Posts: 6201
  • Shit in Shit out.
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 01:15:13 PM »
We generally charge $50, however, each customer has they're own special cost depending on their level of PITA.
Rampage 11.1 • Preps 5.32 • Fuji Film Sabre P-9600 CTP Platesetter with inline FLP 1260 processor • Rampage •  ManRoland PECOM using CIP3 data • HP DesignJet 5500 42" 6/C • Epson Stylus Pro 9880 • Xerox Docucolor 8000 with Fiery • Mutoh ValueJet 1604 • Océ Arizona 250 GT • Océ Arizona 365 GT • Onyx Production House/THRIVE • ManRoland 700 5/c + coat and 2/3 perfect • and a coupla' Heidelbergs and other stuff

Offline david

  • WTF?
  • Global Moderator
  • Supreme Ninja
  • *****
  • Posts: 15084
  • Gender: Male
  • arrrrrrrggg....
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2011, 01:17:47 PM »
our keyboard time used to be 125.

of course, that was back in the eighties when cash was easy to come by.
Prepress guy - doin' jobs one at a time

Offline Joe

  • Master of Nothing
  • Administrator
  • Ninja Warlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 36704
  • Gender: Male
    • B4Print.com
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2011, 01:27:16 PM »
We could charge $5,000 an hour and it wouldn't make any difference. Our customers won't agree to pay for 5 minutes at $45 per hour.
Mac OS 10.14.6 Mojave | Prinergy 8.2 | Adobe Creative Cloud 2019 | Two Luscher XPose 160 CTP units

Prepress: One who does precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.

Offline t-pat

  • Ninja Master
  • **
  • Posts: 5042
  • Gender: Male
  • is it Friday yet?
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2011, 01:34:03 PM »
our time is worthless until it comes time for a raise (or comes time to fire someone to cut the budget), funny huh?
vdp donkey
gmc inspire • sarcasm while you wait

Offline Farabomb

  • #NoLivesMatter
  • Supreme Ninja
  • ***
  • Posts: 17230
  • Gender: Male
  • Wait, what?
    • My other job
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2011, 03:14:18 PM »
Think we are at $125/hr here but like  everywhere, it's subjective.
Speed doesn't kill, rapidly becoming stationary is the problem

I'd rather have stories told than be telling stories of what I could have done.

Quote from: Ear date=1459965256 link=msg=278846
Quote from: Farabomb date=1459964381 link=msg=278844
It's more like grip, grip, grip, noise, then spin and 2 feet in and feel shame.
I once knew a plus-sized girl and this pretty much describes teh secks. :rotf:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
         —Benjamin Franklin

My other job

Offline DigiCorn

  • Terrorizing humans since 1971
  • Supreme Ninja
  • ***
  • Posts: 14868
  • Gender: Male
  • There is no Dana, only Zul!
    • Clerks.
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2011, 03:18:08 PM »
$60/hour here... not that our customers ever really have to pay it
"Selling my soul would be a lot easier if I could just find it."
– Nikki Sixx

“Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.”
― Ernest Hemingway

Offline gnubler

  • Ninja Warlord
  • ***
  • Posts: 28296
  • Gender: Male
  • Amerkin
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2011, 04:16:34 PM »

our time is worthless until it comes time for a raise (or comes time to fire someone to cut the budget), funny huh?


Happening here right now. I've spent countless hours designing & printing material for a big event and I don't think any of prepress time is being billed. Like Joe says, I'm paid hourly so why should I care...

I care when it cuts into paying jobs like it has the past several weeks.
Hicks • Cross • Carlin • Kinison • Parker • Stone •  Colbert • Hedberg • Stanhope • Burr

"As much as I'd like your guns I prefer your buns." - The G

So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

Member #14 • Size 5 • PH8 Unit 7 • Paranoid Misanthropic Doomsayer • Printing & Drinking Since 1998 • doomed ©2011 david

Offline hotmetal

  • Malibu Summer
  • Ninja Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2474
  • Gender: Male
  • screw kerning
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2011, 05:26:58 PM »
I've bid on freelance production projects of this magnitude before. My bids were fair and my work stands for itself (i.e., they want vector art and type and that's what they'd get, and I'd use both OCR and Streamline (LiveTrace these days) to start off, in batch mode.) Never got anyone to bite for such a project. An hour each sounds about right. Some would go faster, some would be a bitch. A month's work for one person, a couple days work for a workgroup, if you can find an entire workgroup of this caliber.

If they don't want to pay a professional rate for the work but still expect professional results, you might as well be flipping burgers...
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." ...
Hunter S. Thompson

Offline t-pat

  • Ninja Master
  • **
  • Posts: 5042
  • Gender: Male
  • is it Friday yet?
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2011, 05:28:42 PM »
I want to work the drive thru window.... 'cause they totally screw you at the drive thru.
vdp donkey
gmc inspire • sarcasm while you wait

Offline Joe

  • Master of Nothing
  • Administrator
  • Ninja Warlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 36704
  • Gender: Male
    • B4Print.com
Re: JPG to Vector with live type
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2011, 05:31:52 PM »

I've bid on freelance production projects of this magnitude before. My bids were fair and my work stands for itself (i.e., they want vector art and type and that's what they'd get, and I'd use both OCR and Streamline (LiveTrace these days) to start off, in batch mode.) Never got anyone to bite for such a project. An hour each sounds about right. Some would go faster, some would be a bitch. A month's work for one person, a couple days work for a workgroup, if you can find an entire workgroup of this caliber.

If they don't want to pay a professional rate for the work but still expect professional results, you might as well be flipping burgers...


Customers always want professional results. Never at the professional rate though. They always expect it to be free. SOS. Day after day. :cry:
Mac OS 10.14.6 Mojave | Prinergy 8.2 | Adobe Creative Cloud 2019 | Two Luscher XPose 160 CTP units

Prepress: One who does precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.