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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2011, 12:07:32 PM »
I still have a problem with the whole HD vs. Blu-Ray argument. I archive to Blu-Ray, use CD Finder for my Library. What took me a full day, sometimes longer of straight archiving to DVD, I can do in about 2 hours with Blu-Rays.
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2011, 12:26:12 PM »
And it would probably be about 15 minutes to HD. Besides, I thought we settled this long ago an we agreed you were wrong. :tongue:
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2011, 12:29:31 PM »

And it would probably be about 15 minutes to HD. Besides, I thought we settled this long ago an we agreed you were wrong. :tongue:


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I just don't trust HDs as much as I trust Blu-Rays/DVDs. I have DVDs and CDs over 20 years old that still work exactly as they did when I burned them. I do not have an HD from that time. That's not saying ALL my archive disks work... just the majority of them. Goddamn bit rot.
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 12:33:29 PM »
So you spray those DVD/BulRay with a magical potion to prevent bit rot on them?
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2011, 12:34:46 PM »

So you spray those DVD/BulRay with a magical potion to prevent bit rot on them?


No... do you spray your HDs?
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2011, 12:37:22 PM »
No but you seem to think the HD will go bad on the shelf but the DVD/BluRay won't. Hell if you pick up a DVD/BluRay and look at it wrong it scratches. Too delicate for my hands.
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2011, 12:41:28 PM »

No but you seem to think the HD will go bad on the shelf but the DVD/BluRay won't. Hell if you pick up a DVD/BluRay and look at it wrong it scratches. Too delicate for my hands.


No I do not think this. When did I say Blu-Ray/DVDs are exempt from bit-rot?
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2011, 12:50:10 PM »
Well, you said you think they are more reliable long term.

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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2011, 01:09:57 PM »

Well, you said you think they are more reliable long term.

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I just don't trust HDs as much as I trust Blu-Rays/DVDs. I have DVDs and CDs over 20 years old that still work exactly as they did when I burned them.



I said this, too... "That's not saying ALL my archive disks work... just the majority of them"

I do think they are more reliable long term, but I do not think they are exempt from bit rot.
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2011, 02:33:47 PM »
I'm not taking sides, I like my skin where it is. Being a geek that was single for 10+ years I've done a lot of reading and if it was my choice I'd have redundant archives on HDDs. Optical media holds less, is more prone to physical damage and the plastics can deteriorate over time. HDDs weren't a viable option years ago but now they're dirt cheap. I have lost exactly one hard drive in all my years of dicking with computers. I've had HDDs in floods and fire and they all still work. Would I trust them for archives in that state, no but they can serve as disposable external drives. I have a pair of 15g Maxtor drives that have been my RAID system drives in every one of my builds except my last 3.

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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2011, 02:38:12 PM »
We are all a product of our fuck-ups and the fuck-ups of the machines we use. Fair enough.
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2011, 03:51:07 PM »

And it would probably be about 15 minutes to HD. Besides, I thought we settled this long ago an we agreed you were wrong. :tongue:


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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2011, 03:54:07 PM »


And it would probably be about 15 minutes to HD. Besides, I thought we settled this long ago an we agreed you were wrong. :tongue:


  Hmmm... sounding like the good old days.    :laugh:


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Re: Archiving to BluRay
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2011, 04:05:28 PM »
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Re: Archiving to BluRay
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