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A look back at 2012
« on: January 01, 2013, 03:39:06 PM »
I added a page about 2012 to the 'history of prepress & printing' section of my site. Besides a lot of take-overs and mergers, nothing much seems to have happened - especially not on the software front. Did I miss something?
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 05:54:29 PM »
Saw that from your Twitter feed the other day, nice roundup! Can't think of anything that skated by, maybe the "No Print Day" diaster by Toshiba.
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 10:16:13 PM »
How about http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/08/30/americas-10-disappearing-jobs/

9. Desktop Publishers
> Pct. decrease: -14.7%
> 2010 jobs: 22,600
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -3,300
> Median annual wage: $36,610

8. Prepress Technicians and Workers
> Pct. decrease: -15.9%
> 2010 jobs: 50,800
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -8,100
> Median annual wage: $36,280

Cheers.

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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 03:47:33 PM »
Thanks, I did read that report about disappearing jobs but assumed it was older. It must have been the term 'desktop publishers' that fooled me.
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 06:15:49 PM »
.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress

Ah, the memories  :old:
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 06:26:24 PM »
Oh man, I recognize everything in that picture guide. Makes me feel :old:.
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 06:26:45 PM »
Here's one for the real old timers, circa 1970

http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr5.htm
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"As much as I'd like your guns I prefer your buns." - The G

So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 08:09:21 PM »

Here's one for the real old timers, circa 1970

http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/dtr5.htm


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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 05:31:11 AM »

How about http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/08/30/americas-10-disappearing-jobs/

9. Desktop Publishers
> Pct. decrease: -14.7%
> 2010 jobs: 22,600
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -3,300
> Median annual wage: $36,610

8. Prepress Technicians and Workers
> Pct. decrease: -15.9%
> 2010 jobs: 50,800
> Total job loss (2010-2020): -8,100
> Median annual wage: $36,280

Cheers.


$36,000 ???  :shocked: I get £8 an hour (about $13) for a 26 hour week - before tax.  That's £10,816 a year or about $17,630 and £8,653 or $14,104 after tax.  I would ask about jobs over there but I don't think Homeland Security would let me in.
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 08:58:50 AM »
The median wage sounds high compared to the offers I've been getting recently and the shit offers you see on craigslist. Whatever, these cheap-ass employers will get what they pay for: Tards. And a lot of reprints.

I think 36K a year = about 20 bucks an hour in the US.
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So,  :drunk3: i send the job to the rip with live transparecy (v 1.7 or whatever) and it craps out with a memory error.

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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 09:59:43 AM »
$36k = $17.30/ hr

$20/hr = $41,600

and you're right employers definitely get what they pay for, if they want to pay $12-15/hr they'll get someone right out of school who will leave as soon as they are properly trained for anything that pays better

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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 10:12:28 AM »

.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress

Ah, the memories  :old:


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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 01:11:56 PM »

.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress

Ah, the memories  :old:
I was good from '87 and on, had to look up the older ones  :cheesy:
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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2013, 01:57:50 PM »


.... and talking of desktop publishers: I dusted off a page that had been in my DRAFT folder for far too long: a picture guide to 25 years of prepress

Ah, the memories  :old:
I was good from '87 and on, had to look up the older ones  :cheesy:
I used to run one of those Iris24, lol.


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Re: A look back at 2012
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2013, 02:02:48 PM »
I have used most of the stuff in the list myself, but what the hell is that item from 1980 (first in the list)?
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