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Offline j_sikkema

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Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« on: March 23, 2016, 11:20:35 AM »
We are using an avantra 44s and just recently there is a line imaged in the film. See attached photos.  it is fairly straight by under magnification it appears to be wavy and gets erratic at the end of the film. It is not a scratch there is no mark on the emulsion of the film.  Any ideas what would be causing this?

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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 01:52:49 PM »
Is the line supposed to be there, just it gets wavy at some point? I know when we did film we had to make sure we walked softly by when it was imaging as it was vern sensitive to the vibration and lines would go wavey. It would not add lines though, it would only effect what was being imaged.

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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 02:06:25 PM »
No the line is not supposed to be there. I can run the same file multiple times and the line will move locations.  Has to be something with the laser and travel and blocking the path.

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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2016, 11:45:44 AM »
Solved!!!!  I removed the brushes that enclose the laser, and on one of the brushes was a 2.5" long hair. This hair presumably from the brush itself, was being dragged across the film and blocking the laser beam hitting the film causing the line.  Now we have some pinholes in the film due to the opening up drum unit.  Hopefully the vacuum system will get rid of the dust eventually.  But at least there is no line on the film.

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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2016, 12:07:18 PM »
I'm still getting over the film part. Where do you get your film? There can't be too much left out there. I know you can still buy 35mm film thanks to hipsters but I'd think print film would be scarce.

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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 12:36:17 PM »
I know by getting rid of film the cost saving paid for our CTP units many times over. There is a reason no one, well except one evidently, uses film anymore. :rotf:
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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 03:12:34 PM »
The last place I worked at still uses film. They also have a CTP, but it wasn't big enough to handle plates for the web press so they stuck with film. They did look at newer large CTPs every year or two.

Actually, they were taken over by another company last year, so maybe they finally switched.
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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016, 03:30:03 PM »
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I know by getting rid of film the cost saving paid for our CTP units many times over. There is a reason no one, well except one evidently, uses film anymore. :rotf:
I think we saved almost $200K in film the first year of CTP back in '04.
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Re: Avantra 44 wavy Line across film output
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2016, 03:32:32 PM »
upgrading to a CTP is one of the biggest and most noticeable differences you will make in a prepress environment. Especially today with process free plates out there. When I started we outsourced our film, then eventually brought it in house, not sure of the brand. But it was a chore with all the developer and fixed. Then add masking, hunting for a spec of dust that would cause a hot spot and then again cleaning in a chemical bath. I spent many many late evenings stripping and masking for magazine type publications, 24 page, 32 page, etc etc. Now what would take me a whole day I can do in an hour or 2 with zero chemicals, no fuss, no hot spots.