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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2019, 12:05:32 PM »
Well, there goes anyone out the door!
Third kid we had in last four years to walk out.
Management still tries to hire these kids that want to be web designers and graphic designs that don't know shit about printing.

Kid: What's bleed?
Me: Seriously?!

At least they can't fire my ass if I get up and dance naked on my desk. LOL
As of now, almost 99% of printing is done in our department
I've said we need a "digital press person" not some damn graphic designer.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2019, 12:59:39 PM »
I've been lucky here for 18 years. I've only had two bosses and both know what they are doing. :)
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2019, 09:45:19 AM »
Whoa, you are lucky.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2019, 01:04:18 PM »
What alternate universe do you come from?
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2019, 02:10:00 PM »
Well, there goes anyone out the door!
Third kid we had in last four years to walk out.
Management still tries to hire these kids that want to be web designers and graphic designs that don't know shit about printing.

Kid: What's bleed?
Me: Seriously?!

At least they can't fire my ass if I get up and dance naked on my desk. LOL
As of now, almost 99% of printing is done in our department
I've said we need a "digital press person" not some damn graphic designer.
So I'm guaranteed a paycheck for a little bit longer since I'm alone.
Boss tries to help. The key word is "try."

this is why i dont ask for help anymore. i get this exact thing. and then they say they tried to help you. its not help to babysit someone else and still print.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2019, 05:12:40 PM »
I'm running into a similar problem at the car shop with service writers. It seems most of the newer generation don't understand what work is. They "try" but don't do things to completion and don't have the ability to think on their feet. If there are instructions they can follow them most times but if it requires thinking, they fail.

My present one formats his brain nightly. It's like the movie 50 first dates but he's not nearly as cute as Drew Barrymore and I'm getting real tired of babysitting.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2019, 05:27:09 PM »
Unfortunately, it's not just the younger generation. We had an older guy who was supposed to learn to run a press. Sent him for training at another shop with the same press. Turns out all he wanted to do was empty trash cans and change light bulbs. He couldn't think for beans. When he'd have a problem on the press, he'd tell the manager the press is broken.

He ain't here no more.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2019, 07:31:51 PM »
Speaking of Graphic Design...I think I got a designer fired today. Last time their job was printed we got PDF's made from InDesign. Beautiful pages with no issues.

Then they hired a new 'designer'. So this time they were completely done in Photoshop. Every page was just an image and all of the body text of every page was, of course, 4 color black. So I called and gave them the whole speech about how Photoshop is not a page layout app...yadda yadda yadda. The publisher called me and told me not to proceed and he would find another designer. So yeah...pretty sure I got a designer fired today. And I don't even feel bad! :evil:
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2019, 08:28:21 PM »
Speaking of Graphic Design...I think I got a designer fired today. Last time their job was printed we got PDF's made from InDesign. Beautiful pages with no issues.

Then they hired a new 'designer'. So this time they were completely done in Photoshop. Every page was just an image and all of the body text of every page was, of course, 4 color black. So I called and gave them the whole speech about how Photoshop is not a page layout app...yadda yadda yadda. The publisher called me and told me not to proceed and he would find another designer. So yeah...pretty sure I got a designer fired today. And I don't even feel bad! :evil:
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2019, 09:15:23 PM »
Wrong! Strike one down, 3 more take their place. Like some Sith Lord/Chimera nonsense.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2019, 10:37:20 AM »
UPDATE: My apologies. I failed.

The guy thinks he is pretty clever. At one point he sent me a new PDF named "Indesign PDF". And sure enough they were made from InDesign. I opened it and clearly he took his photoshop file that was just an image and then placed it into InDesign. Still was just an image with 4 color black. I told him that it "appeared" that he just took the previous files and placed them into InDesign and made a new PDF and he was shocked, shocked I tell, and said "how did you know that is what I did? I thought I could fool you.

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The publisher found out that he couldn't find a designer to reset all 16 pages correctly in two hours. Shocking huh? :shocked:

I was able to figure out why the black text was 4 color black text. It seems if you color it C-75 M-68 Y-67 K-90 it comes out that way in. Again x 2...shocking. :shocked:

And if you change it to K-100 and then output it again it comes out that way. Again x 3...shocking! :shocked:

Well it was still an image instead of text and the designer promised me he will use InDesign next issue. I'm 100% sure he means he will do the pages in PS again and then place that file in InDesign but that is a battle for another day. :shoots_self:
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2019, 04:23:16 PM »
I've had so many do that crap. We ask for vector art, an .ai file or .eps. So they save or export their Word document as an EPS and thinks that fixes it.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2019, 05:05:39 PM »
I'd rather have a PDF from Word than a PDF from Photoshop.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2019, 05:10:08 PM »
Surely you must be joking.

We have a customer that sends Photoshop PDFs on the reg. They NEVER have bleeds. But when we open their PDFs in Photoshop, they are still layered, so we expand the canvas and pull out the layers that need help. It's way better than trying to deal with Microsoft color.
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Re: That's Not Graphic Designing?!
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2019, 05:16:35 PM »
Well not the PDF's I got last night. Basically just an image of the whole page. So yeah...I am not joking. Give me a Word PDF any day. I can beat that sumbitch into submission any day! (with Pitstop)
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