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Topic: Printing direct vs. spooling (Read 646 times) previous topic - next topic

Printing direct vs. spooling

We've got a great Konica color machine, with one glaring omission: no command workstation. Too much $$$$$.

Rather than suffer the ridiculous rip times for pdfs going through the "other program" obviously creating huge spool files, is there a way to print direct as a "rip on the fly" kind of like streaming like netflix.

Sorry if I asked this question before, it just keeps coming up again and again and again.

Re: Printing direct vs. spooling

Reply #1
And I am not talking about 4 color jobs either.... simple variable type jobs but up to about 10,000 pages.

We have been forced to split the pdf's up into say, 2000 pages to make it manageable.

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I think your printer would have to have a huge amount of RAM if OS X would even allow it. Spooling to disk is the way it feeds only so much data at a time that the printer can handle.
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I think your printer would have to have a huge amount of RAM if OS X would even allow it. Spooling to disk is the way it feeds only so much data at a time that the printer can handle.

Oyyyy, over my head I am afraid.

Talking about printing direct to the printer from the pc that controls it, ie. open pdf in Acrobat and print.
This bypasses the controller program which has to rip and spool the whole file. I think.
Couldn't it just stream and print the file as it processes? Like Netflix? Sorry, that's the only comparison I can make.

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Reply #4
I can't even imagine running a digital press without command workstation or something like it.
How do you do colour calibration, alignment adjustments and all that?

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Reply #5
Oh it has those features.

Doesn't have imposition or the ability to accept anything other than pdf. No ppml or the other variable formats that only rip the 4 color once instead of every page.


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Reply #6
I know our Fiery running CWS on the Versant digital press has 4 independent processors and when you're queuing a large job, you can see all 4 chewing the file and it does so pretty quickly (that said, when it's not randomly replacing images).
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Reply #7
Oyyyy, over my head I am afraid.

Talking about printing direct to the printer from the pc that controls it, ie. open pdf in Acrobat and print.
This bypasses the controller program which has to rip and spool the whole file. I think.
Couldn't it just stream and print the file as it processes? Like Netflix? Sorry, that's the only comparison I can make.

Oh on a PC...I think you can do it on a PC but when you print it, it takes control of the PC and will not let you do anything else on it until the whole job is done. Here is the setting:

Mac OS 10.12 Sierra | Prinergy 7.5 | Adobe Creative Cloud 2017 | Two Luscher XPose 160 CTP units

Prepress: One who does precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge.

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Reply #8
Well it takes control of the printer when it's spooling for hours anyways.

Thanks, we'll try this.

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Reply #9
I remember with our older digital devices that there was a print direct que. Had to setup another print que that when used it just sent the file and printed automatically. I currently use that for an old machine that we use for office printing now.  Not sure if this will do exactly what you are looking for, think not as the machine would still need to RIP, but it does just start printing when ready.

 

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Reply #10
Spooling in 1993 was superior then, it's still superior now.
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