Mac not refreshing finder windows on SMB Share

[AaronH]

That's an interesting idea. I'll have to check that out on the old iMac.

Yeah, that would definitely be an option to try when I feel like getting an extra day in... hmm...

[AaronH]

Yep its an AFP version issue.

It works just fine with no problems on the older 2006 iMac.

My guess is with the security update in July messed with the AFP protocol on newer machines and our old LaCie NAS isn't getting that update too.

Very weird.

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

Yep its an AFP version issue.

It works just fine with no problems on the older 2006 iMac.

My guess is with the security update in July messed with the AFP protocol on newer machines and our old LaCie NAS isn't getting that update too.

Very weird.

Edit... How many posts is ninja level... not that I'm trying to get there artificially or anything... 

My guess is that the problem with SMB is also an incompatibility between the SMB on the NAS and the newer Macs.

It would be a shame if that Lacie NAS suddenly died huh?

[AaronH]

It would be a shame if that Lacie NAS suddenly died huh?

It would... 

[DigiCorn]

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[AaronH]

Not sure if I should start a new topic or not, but I think it has something to do with SMB connections...

My co-worker has an external hdd of the last three years of job files, so I connect to his iMac quite frequently. How I connect is through finder on the sidebar under Network Locations. I've realized that they're connecting via SMB now instead of AFP and for whatever reason, I'm unable to search or spotlight or whatever it's called on SMB shares. No matter what I search for even if its in the window I'm looking at, it comes up with "0" items.

I have to manually type in to connect command+k then afp://imac2._afpovertcp._tcp.local

What's the deal with either issue? Why can't I search over SMB (on both the file server and my co-worker's iMac) and why can't I connect to another iMac via AFP by default?

[Joe]

Apple changed the default connection to SMB when they deprecated AFP.

No idea why you can't search SMB. All of our connections are SMB and we search all of the time. Using the Mac search sucks though so I use EasyFind.

[AaronH]

Thanks Joe, I'll give Easy Find a go.

[AaronH]

Ugh, now I'm having the same connection interruption I had when using AFP earlier this year. I can't seem to keep my SMB connection for very long. No one else in the building is having the issue.

I don't think I'm losing connection to the net/network itself. My music doesn't stop playing and I don't lose connection to other machines on the network, just the server. We'll now come to think about it I lose connection now to my co-worker's iMac quite frequently as well, but not the ancient iMac using AFP.

 

[Joe]

You know with the odd issues you are having how is your network configured. By that I mean what kind of ethernet cables, ie...cat5, cat5e, cat6? What kind of network switches? 10baseT, 100baseT, Gigabit? How old are the switches and cables?

[AaronH]

I don't know how old things are per say. I know I've been here for 4 years and they're older than that. The network cables are all either CAT 5e or CAT 6 - the ones from the NAS to the switch and from the prepress iMacs are CAT 5e. We have a Comcast business router that is about 3.5 years old and the switch is a gigabit Netgear 48 port switch - no idea what model it is, the sticker that should have model information just has a MAC address and Serial Number. Some other numbers but none of them mention Model Number.

Edit... Now that I think about it, I'm going to try using WiFi instead of Ethernet. I can't rule out my ethernet cable.

[david]

is your mac plugged into a phone by any chance?

[DigiCorn]

...or is it defaulting to wifi?

[AaronH]

is your mac plugged into a phone by any chance?

No phone connected to it.

...or is it defaulting to wifi?

Nope. If I have the Ethernet cable in, I make sure wifi is turned off. If I have Wifi on, I have to manually tell it what IP address, subnet mask and router information it should have otherwise websites won't load - the router gives my Mac a 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP address. The router seems to do that to any Mac or smart phone made after 2016 or with a 10.10+ macOS.